Some Thoughts On Immigration And Stefan Molyneux

I want to air my thoughts on something that's been bothering me. It has to do with this tweet (and many others like it) by Stefan.

I find that kind of tweet to be unprincipled and manipulative. The argument behind it is this: "If DACA didn't get passed, that child would have never been molested, therefore DACA is bad." While the premise is true, it is not a good reason in and of itself to criminalize people who qualify as DACA recipients. For starters, the alleged molester would have probably done that crime elsewhere, but let's ignore that.

Let's say Bob is stopped and caught holding a stash of weed but the cop lets him go because marijuana was just legalized. Later that day, Bob murders someone. Now, wouldn't it be manipulative if I use this story to convince/scare people into supporting drug laws? And what if I showed you a correlation of people who smoke weed and commit crimes? Would I then be justified in criminalizing stoners? 

I think it would be wrong for me to do that. Even if weed was illegal, I think you should cheer that the cop didn't enforce such a backwards law. While it's tragic that a person got murdered, it is illogical to dwell on the things that could have coincidentally prevented it. 

Now let me clarify that I'm not fully supporting the abolishment of all immigration laws. I'm actually still making up my mind on that. I'm just using that counterexample to show that that particular argument is an invalid one. There may be good arguments for deportation of dreamers but that is not one.

I also want to express my disappointment that Stefan is pushing that type of sophistry. Either Stefan knows this flaw in his argument or he doesn't care because he wants to push an agenda. Knowing how smart he is I'm willing to bet on the latter.

And this is not the only type of argument in which he should know better. He has also argued against immigration for the reason that it would lower wages. That is the exact same argument for minimum wage which I know he is against. Those two arguments ignore the fact that companies will simply take their jobs overseas if they can't get low enough wages here, causing even more unemployment.

Another occation that really bothered me was when he dismissed a person on twitter by pointing out the lack of followers that the person had. These kind of low blows feel out of character compared to the way he used to be. At least I don't remember him being that way.

I've been listening to Stefan since 2011. He taught me almost everything I know in philosophy, which is why this change from him has really bothered me. 

I know he's just trying to win by any means necessary. Maybe he's justified in doing all of that because it gets him more power to do what he thinks is good. Because trolling and making flawed but catchy arguments attracts a bigger audience, and a bigger audience means bigger influence. I'm not so sure if that influence is a good thing though. Currently I'm more inclined to say that he is doing his audience a disservice by manipulating them with logical fallacies and passing it off as philosophy.


Hello, I'm Erick Muller. I like to write about many things including philosophy, self-improvement, running, unschooling, podcasts, productivity tools and digital marketing.

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